Next Gen DVDs won't ever merge

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Next Gen DVDs won't ever merge

Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:08:53 PM #17184 Perm Link

Bluray and HD will never merge into a single standard.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20060421/tc_zd/176317;_ylt=Ald.V1sbQ9K.FII3Acw4M9ojtBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA

"Screw the customers" is all I hear.

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Re: Next Gen DVDs won't ever merge

Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:55:22 PM #17204 Perm Link

In response to Aron Schatz #17184

I won't be buying any next generation DVD system. I have no need to while DVDs are perfectly fine.

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Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:24:47 PM #17210 Perm Link

Blu-ray will win. The power to destroy a planet is insignifigant compared to the power of being a major movie studio and hardware manufacturer as well. PS3 may very well be the first next-gen player many people own, and they'll be putting out a million a month from 11/6-3/7. Meanwhile HD-DVD will have their own expensive players, or an expensive add-on to the 360. We all remember how well add-ons to consoles do in the marketplace (Dreamcast DVD, Genesis CD, N64 CD anyone?).

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:25:20 AM #17216 Perm Link

In response to Thefremen #17210

It will be the porn industry that decides which format will win. Same as before.

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:37:35 PM #17273 Perm Link

In response to Aron Schatz #17216

There is much truth to that statement. The porn industry decided the Beta and VHS battle.

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:48:22 PM #17281 Perm Link

That's true. What format they going with this time?

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Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:25:38 AM #17293 Perm Link

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I don't think they are moving from regular DVDs yet... that tells you something.

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Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:13:21 PM #18152 Perm Link

Sony has a lot of marketing work ahead of them. Ask the average consumer who doesn't play video games, "What's an HD-DVD and what's a Blu-Ray disc?" Most will relate to HD-DVD's, which are cheaper to make, though they don't hold as much info. The 360 already has a jump on Sony, so even though I'm a PS2 fan planning to buy a PS3, if any format is gonna win the war, I'd say HD-DVD...

Regular DVD has only been around for about seven years, and already they want to replace it... The HD-DVD players better play CD's and regular DVD's, otherwise, why bother switching?

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Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:06:40 PM #18163 Perm Link

HD-DVD would win in a vacuum because it has the 'HD' in it.

It is a logical thing. I'm going to buy a HDTV, why not a HD-DVD player?

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Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:43:56 PM #18170 Perm Link

In response to NTSCrZhao #18163

Wow. That's a great point.

HDTV, HD Radio... HD-DVD.

Makes sense.

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Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:36:12 PM #18185 Perm Link

In response to SHCaseRtoZ #18170

HD-COCK sounds better than Blu-rAnus.

I predict the porn industry will choose HD-DVD as the format will proably be slightly cheaper to produce.

It'll sort itself out eventually if big set top hard drives with digital distribution don't make the whole thing irrelevant first (just like internet porn). Who buys porn on DVD? Really?

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Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:43:52 PM #18194 Perm Link

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Said By Yodasmokes
Who buys porn on DVD? Really?

Many, many people... Seriously.

I hope this gets sorted and both formats go away in favor of a non DRM solution.

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Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:55:50 PM #18203 Perm Link

In response to Yodasmokes #18185

Many people I know buy porn on DVD.

Not me... the Internet is fine Smile

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Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:57:49 PM #18234 Perm Link

Anybody get a chance to view a Blu-ray disc on an HDTV?

I wonder if the average buyer will want to spend more for a small difference... Regular DVD on HDTV looks great as it is. How high do we need our Resolution to enjoy the movie? Why not just jump to 3D?
Sounds like the market is trying to tell consumers what to like... Again.

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Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:03:15 PM #18260 Perm Link

In response to Cycle09 #18234

We don't need any new DVD standards because regular DVDs look fine on even very high resolution TVs.

This isn't like when DVDs replaced VHS.

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:27:00 AM #18265 Perm Link

In response to SHCaseRtoZ #18260

That's exactly the case. There is no reason for a new standard to be forced down our throats. The movie studios just want more money.

The data side of things are different and we need more removable storage.

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:57:27 AM #18275 Perm Link

As a consumer I would like to pay more for the same content that I have paid for twice already.

It will come with features that I'll never use and are useless.

That was sarcasm.

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:04:23 PM #18282 Perm Link

Great points made.

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Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:02:57 PM #18524 Perm Link

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As a consumer I would like to pay more for the same content that I have paid for twice already.

It will come with features that I'll never use and are useless.

That was sarcasm.

That kicked ass!

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Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:10:59 AM #18568 Perm Link

In response to Yodasmokes #18524

Thanks. I'm pretty good Smile

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Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:07:17 AM #18574 Perm Link

In response to NTSCrZhao #18275

Hell, I've been buying up Laserdiscs for some movies that aren't as good on DVD (notably, Star Wars and Blade Runner).

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Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:35:08 AM #18611 Perm Link

In response to Tornado #18574

They make those on Laserdisks?

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Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:53:13 PM #18622 Perm Link

In response to SHCaseRtoZ #18611

You'd be surprised what you can get on older media.

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Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:06:47 AM #19131 Perm Link

The Big Industries can shove all the new crap that they want but the bottom line is Us the consumers the ones that determine what new tech succeeds or fails, there are still people with out DVD Players in America now if these people have not purchased a DVD Player what makes you think that they will buy a Blue Ray player for a grand or a HD-DVD when you can buy a cheap DVD player for $60 bucks?? Take LCD,HDTV and Projection TVs not everyone owns these TVs and they have been around for several years now considering they continue to drop in price, 2 to 4 grand for a TV is not feasible for the average Joe much less a Grand for a Movie player....

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Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:43:40 AM #19160 Perm Link

In response to Baldeagle1 #19131

Most people I know plan on sticking with DVDs for some time.

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Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:47:56 AM #19163 Perm Link

In response to SHCaseRtoZ #18611

Yeah. They are the best versions as well. Now I just need my own Laserdisc player.

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Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:05:15 AM #19247 Perm Link

So higher resolution, plus one disc for the film and tons of extras, on BR and HDDVD... When the HD player lowers to $100 bucks, and the movies sell for under $20 like DVD's(seen them for $25), and if they can play DVD's too, then I'll consider it.

Anybody know if an HDDVD player plays DVD's? I'm pretty sure the PS3's BR will be able to read blu-ray AND DVD's, since it will be backwards compatible with the PS2, which uses DVD-Rom.

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Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:28:53 AM #19248 Perm Link

In response to Cycle09 #19247

HD-DVD and BD-ROM will not play DVDs by themselves. They both need extra lasers in the players. That being said, I doubt that ANY player will be sold without DVD support.

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Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:02:52 AM #19292 Perm Link

In response to Cycle09 #19247

I don't think any new player won't be compatible with current DVDs.

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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:10:43 PM #19381 Perm Link

Yeah, they'd lose sales from potential customers of HDDVD/BR without a DVD reader pre-installed(red laser).